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Tennessee Firearms Assoc. Inc. • View topic - National Concealed Carry

National Concealed Carry

Moderator: C. Richard Archie

National Concealed Carry

Postby backwoodsman » Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:08 pm

Dear Members, I am on the email list for Front Sight Training, I received this today and have not heard about this till now, As I feel secure with the owner of Front Sights truthfulness I felt obliged to share this . as follows:

July 18, 2009
Dr. Ignatius Piazza
Founder and Director
http://www.frontsight.com

National Concealed Carry Possible with New Bill, But
Needs Your Support... vote is imminent next week!


Dear *****

There is so much misinformation circulating the
Internet these days regarding proposed gun control
that I do not get involved until I hear from my
friend Larry Pratt and his "No Compromise" group
of hard working patriots at Gun Owners of America.

Here is the straight scoop on what you need to do
RIGHT NOW to help a REAL National Concealed Carry Law
get passed.

Follow GOA's request to write your Senators TODAY.
(sample letter written for you below)

Please read this information from Gun Owners of America
and act on it today...

Gun Owners of America E-Mail Alert
8001 Forbes Place, Suite 102, Springfield, VA 22151
Phone: 703-321-8585 / FAX: 703-321-8408
http://www.gunowners.org

Friday, July 17, 2009

A vote to protect your right to travel out-of-state with
a firearm could come to a vote next week -- even as
early as Monday!

Senators John Thune and David Vitter are the sponsors of
S. 845 -- a bill that will establish concealed carry
reciprocity amongst the several states.

Senators Thune and Vitter offered the bill as an
amendment (#1618) to the Department of Defense
authorization bill (H.R. 2647).

This provision will use the constitutional authority
allowing Congress to enforce "full faith and credit"
across the country, so that each state respects the
"public acts, records, and judicial proceedings" of
every other state (Article IV).

The benefit of the Thune/Vitter legislation is that --
unlike other, competing measures -- it would protect the
right of any U.S. citizen to carry out of state
(regardless of whether he possesses a permit), as
long as he is authorized to carry in his home state.
This is important because of states like Vermont and
Alaska, where residents can carry concealed without
prior approval or permission from the state... in
other words, without a permit!

ACTION: Please urge your Senators to vote YES on the
Thune/Vitter concealed carry reciprocity amendment that
will be offered to the Department of Defense
authorization bill and NO on any modifying amendments.
This vote could come as early as Monday, so please act
on this right away!

You can use the Gun Owners Legislative Action Center at
http://www.gunowners.org/activism.htm to send your
Senators the pre-written e-mail message below.

----- Pre-written letter -----

Dear Senator:

Please support the Thune/Vitter amendment to the
Department of Defense authorization bill. This amendment
will protect the right of citizens to carry firearms
outside of their home state without violating the rights
of the other states. Thus, the reciprocity language
masterfully protects the principle of federalism while
also promoting Second Amendment rights.

A person's right to defend himself and his family should
not end at the border of his state.

I urge you to vote for the Thune/Vitter concealed carry
amendment and to oppose any modifying actions that seek
to weaken their amendment.

Sincerely,

(Place your Name, City, and State here)

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I look forward to seeing you as a student at Front Sight!

Sincerely,

Dr. Ignatius Piazza
Founder and Director
Front Sight Firearms Training Institute
P. O. Box 2619
Aptos, CA 95001
http://www.frontsight.com
info@frontsight.com
1.800.987.7719
"Rebellion to Tyrants is Obedience to God." Benjamin Franklin
"The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates." - Tacitus (Roman Senator)

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Re: National Concealed Carry

Postby CharlesH » Sun Jul 19, 2009 9:26 am

The NRAILA and GOA both sent me a notice on this bill. We need to act quickly on this and get the word out. Judging on his past voting record, Senator Alexander is sure to vote against this unless he is inundated with email and calls.

URGENT - U.S. Senate To Consider Right-To-Carry Reciprocity Amendment Early Next Week
NRA-ILA | July 17, 2009
Contact Your U.S. Senators TODAY And Urge Them To Support Your Right To Self-Defense

The U.S. Senate is now considering the National Defense Authorization Act (S. 1390). As a part of the consideration of that legislation, Senators John Thune (R-SD) and David Vitter (R-LA) will offer an amendment on Monday to provide for interstate recognition of Right-to-Carry permits. There is a very high likelihood of a Senate floor vote on this important and timely pro-gun reform on Monday or Tuesday.

While the right to possess firearms for self-defense within the home has long been respected under the law, for most of our nation's history, state and local governments have prohibited ordinary citizens from possessing firearms for self-defense in many settings outside the home. Recently, however, most state legislatures have taken steps to reduce those restrictions. In the last twenty years, the number of states that respect the right to carry has risen from 10 to 40 -- an all-time high.

Now is the time for Congress to acknowledge these changes in state laws and recognize that the right to self-defense does not end at state lines. Under the Thune-Vitter amendment, an individual who has met the requirements for a carry permit, or who is otherwise allowed by his home state's state law to carry a firearm, would be authorized to carry a firearm for protection in any other state that issues such permits, subject to the laws of the state in which the firearm is carried.

Contrary to "states' rights" claims from opponents who usually favor sweeping federal gun control, the amendment is a legitimate exercise of Congress's constitutional power to protect the fundamental rights of citizens (including the right to keep and bear arms and the right of personal mobility). States would still have the authority to regulate the time, place and manner in which handguns are carried.

Expanding Right-to-Carry will enhance public safety, and certainly poses no threat to the public. Criminals are deterred from attempting crimes when they know or suspect that their prospective victims are armed. A study for the Department of Justice found that 40 percent of felons had not committed crimes because they feared the prospective victims were armed.

And, carry permit holders have demonstrated that they are more law-abiding than the rest of the public. For example, Florida has issued more carry permits than any other state (1.5 million), but revoked only 166 (0.01 percent) as a result of firearms-related crimes by permit holders.

The Thune-Vitter amendment recognizes that competent, responsible, law-abiding Americans still deserve our trust and confidence when they cross state lines. Passing interstate Right-to-Carry legislation will help further reduce crime by deterring criminals, and—most important of all—will protect the right of honest Americans to protect themselves when deterrence fails.

The Thune-Vitter Amendment represents a giant step forward in the protection of the basic right to self-defense. Its passage will recognize that the rights of law-abiding Right-to-Carry permit holders should be respected, even when they travel outside their home state.

Please be sure to contact both of your U.S. Senators today, and urge them to cosponsor and support the Thune-Vitter amendment. E-mail them today and call them on Monday. To find contact information for your U.S. Senators, please click here, or call (202) 224-3121.

You can also contact them via toll free capital switchboard numbers below.
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Re: National Concealed Carry

Postby J A P » Wed Jul 22, 2009 12:20 pm

Just heard on the radio that the bill failed, 2 votes short.
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Re: National Concealed Carry

Postby C. Richard Archie » Wed Jul 22, 2009 1:04 pm

Sure want to know how our TN folks voted???
"It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds." Samuel Adams

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Re: National Concealed Carry

Postby Tim Nunan » Wed Jul 22, 2009 1:07 pm

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Re: National Concealed Carry

Postby C. Richard Archie » Wed Jul 22, 2009 2:50 pm

From what I can find, the only Republicans that turned traitor were Lugar of Indiana, and Voinovich of Ohio, the two votes we needed to get where we needed to be.

All the more reason to hold local and State officials feet to the fire, we are sunk when it comes to the Federal Senate!
"It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds." Samuel Adams

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Re: National Concealed Carry

Postby Ed__357 » Wed Jul 22, 2009 6:37 pm

Legalized "National" Concealed Carry is still a long way off. The current bill never had a chance.

Let's face it folks. Several states, New Jersey, New York, California, Hawaii, and several more I'm sure, don't even allow "Their Own Citizens" to carry. They sure aren't going to allow you and me from Tennessee to come into their states with our guns.

The only way a full National Concealed Carry law can be passed is if we "First" get every single state to allow carry in the first place. This bill that was voted on recently is putting the cart before the horse.
It's best to let the world "Think" you're an idiot, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
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