Who Needs an AR-15?

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Who Needs an AR-15?

Postby Tim Nunan » Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:24 am

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government ... s-An-AR-15

Who needs an AR-15? Especially an AR-15 with a 20 or 30 round clip?

These are the kinds of questions that have become popular fare by talking heads like CNN's Piers Morgan over the past few weeks. He criticizes "assault weapons" in general and AR-15s in particular--labeling them "killing machines"--and asks guest after guest on his television program, Who needs one?

One answer to Morgan's line of questioning is that anyone looking for a home defense weapon or a self-defense weapon may very well need an AR-15 (or an AK-47 or SKS rifle).

Why for home defense? There are many reasons why, but for a homeowner who lives in an area where burglary-by-home-invasion is prevalent, the reason is obvious--it's because home invaders don't work alone. And when three armed men storm your home, instead of one lone armed burglar, an AR-15 could keep you from getting out-gunned from the start.

Why for self defense? Again, there are many reasons, but the central one is that an AR-15 (or AK-47 or SKS rifle) may allow a would-be victim under attack to gain the upper hand on his or her attackers faster than a handgun would.

Ironically, a "Personal Defense Weapons Solicitation" for Department of Homeland Security (DHS) agents in Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), lists an AR-15 variant as "suitable for personal defense."

So who needs an AR-15? According to the DHS document, it might simply be those who are looking for "personal defense."

But here's a crucial point that must be considered as well: We don't have to have to "need" a certain type of firearm in order to own it. The right to keep and bear arms is sufficient to justify keeping and bearing them because we want to.

I wonder if Mr. Morgan owns only what he needs or if, by chance, he also owns a lot of things he wants? My guess is the latter, and that's his business, but if it's true, his position is hypocritical.

An AR-15 is great for those who need a weapon for home defense or self-defense--or for "personal defense," as the DHS document put it. But it's also a great weapon for people who simply want an ultra-reliable rifle that's fun to take target shooting or hunting (in states that allow you to hunt with AR-15s).
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DHS buys 7000 "Personal Defense Weapons"

Postby Tim Nunan » Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:27 am

DHS buys 7000 full-auto assault rifles, calls them 'personal defense weapons'

http://www.naturalnews.com/038844_DHS_a ... ments.html

(NaturalNews) In yet another huge blow to the rhetoric and narrative of the Obama administration and its desire to disarm the American public, a DHS bid has been uncovered (see documents below) showing that the Department of Homeland Security recently put out an offer to purchase 7,000 full-auto "assault weapons" to be used domestically, inside the USA.

Keep in mind that President Obama is on the record saying, "AK-47s belong in the hands of soldiers, not in the hands of criminals; that they belong on the battlefield of war, not on the streets of our cities."

But it seems he really means they don't belong on the streets of our cities unless they are in the hands of homeland security enforcers, in which case they can be FULL-AUTO assault weapons.

The DHS bid for 7,000 full-auto assault weapons is found by clicking here. The original credit for discovering this goes, to my best knowledge, to Awr Hawkins at Breitbart.com.

In the hands of the government, they're called "Personal Defense Weapons"
The juiciest part of this bid is the use of the phrase "Personal Defense Weapons" to describe the full-auto AR-15s being purchased by DHS.

Apparently, when YOU hold an AR-15, it's an "assault rifle." But magically, if you hand that same rifle to an armed government homeland security enforcer, it instantly transforms itself into a "personal defense weapon."

The request for bid actually says:

DHS and its components have a requirement for a 5.56x45mm NATO, select-fire firearm suitable for personal defense use in close quarters and / or when maximum concealment is required.

So there it is, right in black and white: DHS enforcers need full-auto AR-15s which are "suitable for personal defense in close quarters" and for "maximum concealment."

But if you or I make the same claim, suddenly we are branded lunatics by the fringe left and all the gun grabbers across America who apparently have no clue that their own government is arming up like never before.

Senator Feinstein, the gun-grabbing Senator from California, says she wants to take all the guns from all Americans. "Mr. and Mrs. America, turn 'em all in," she says on the record. But while Mr. and Mrs. America are turning in their guns, 'roid-head DHS goons are arming to the teeth with full-auto assault rifles.

This is all on top of the 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition the U.S. government has already stockpiled, as was discovered last year. What kind of government wants to domestically stockpile ammo and full-auto weapons, putting them in the hands of domestic agents who have nothing whatsoever to do with overseas wars? Well, the kind of government that plans to NEED 1.6 billion rounds of ammo and full-auto assault weapons, of course.


Read some language from the contract bid: Pistol grips, full-auto and more
Click here to see the bid.

Here's some selected text from the bid:

ICE/Mission Support-DC
Immigration and Customs Enforcement
Office of Acquisition Management
801 I Street NW, Suite 980
Washington DC 20536

Troy Teachey, troy.teachey@dhs.gov

Delivery Location Code: ICE/AS/NFTTU
ICE Natl Firearm Tactical Trng Unit
Immigration and Customs Enforcement
500 12th ST SW, Washington DC 20536

5.56X45mm NATO Personal Defense Weapon

During the base period and four option periods of this contract the maximum ceiling is $9,800,000.

Click here for the PDF document containing the following text:

The scope of this contract is to provide a total of up to 7,000 5.56x45mm North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) personal defense weapons (PDW) throughout the life of this contract to numerous Department of Homeland Security components.

The action shall be select-fire (capable of semi-automatic and automatic fire).

The action shall be capable of accepting all standard NATO STANAG 20 and 30 round M16 magazines (NSN 1005-00-921-5004) and Magpul 30 round PMAG (NSN 1005-01-576-5159). The magazine shall have a capacity to hold thirty (30) 5.56x45mm NATO rounds.

The receiver top shall be equipped with an integral MIL-STD-1913 Picatinny rail for mounting sights and other accessories.

The fire control selector shall have three positions; safe, semi-automatic, and automatic.

The pistol grip shall be a fixed, vertical pistol grip constructed of a durable material.


DHS admits AR-15 with 30-round magazine is "suitable for personal defense use in close quarters"
This government document openly admits that AR-15s with 30-round magazines and capable of fully automatic fire are "suitable for personal defense" in close quarters (i.e. your home).

CNN, of course, doesn't want you to ever hear that. Nor does Feinstein, Cuomo, Schumer, Obama, Eric Holder or any other gun grabbers. Even while their own government is arming up with 1.6 billion rounds of ammo and 7,000 full-auto "assault rifles" (plus lots more in other bids), they are trying to completely disarm the American citizenry through new gun registration and confiscation legislation.

The whole point of all this, of course, is to create firepower disparity between the government and the citizenry... To disarm the People while arming up the government agents who operate domestically. That way, the people can be forced at gunpoint into doing almost anything the oppressive government demands! (Taking vaccine shots, giving up private property, turning over farms and businesses, etc.)

What's really hard-hitting about this is that the radical left keeps claiming things like "no one needs an assault rifle for personal defense." Okay, if that true, then the Department of Homeland Security should abandon all such rifles first! Let's see DHS turn in all its rifles and ammo, thereby setting an example of the "fact" that "nobody needs an assault rifle" for self defense.

In truth, a full-auto AR-15 is an outstanding weapon for self defense, which is exactly why DHS is buying thousands of them. Nothing stops bad guys faster than a barrage of high-velocity lead aimed in their direction. Again, that's why DHS wants these rifles in the first place. One of these rifles in the hands of a citizen could have stopped the Sandy Hook shooting in seconds.


Pay attention to the word games (which are really mind games)
As you observe the highly manipulated gun control argument, pay special attention to the word games you're being subjected to:

An AR-15 in the hands of a citizen is an "assault rifle."
But an AR-15 in the hands of a DHS agent is a "Personal Defense Weapon."

A full-auto-capable rifle in the hands of a citizen is called a "machine gun."
A full-auto-capable rifle in the hands of a DHS agent is called a "select-fire rifle."

According to the media, all government agents with assault rifles are presumed innocent and assumed to be stopping crime.

But all private citizens with assault rifles are presumed guilty and assumed to be causing crime.

When one citizen goes crazy and murders a bunch of people, the call goes out for ALL citizens to be stripped of their firearms.

But when one government agent goes crazy and murders a bunch of people, the calls goes out for MORE guns to be placed in the hands of MORE government agents!


Thank you, DHS, for admitting the truth
In summary, it looks like we actually need to thank the DHS for admitting the truth that Obama won't: AR-15s are personal defense weapons, suitable for use in close quarters, especially when equipped with 30-round magazines.

That's why I own one, and it's why DHS wants thousands more (but theirs are full-auto, while mine is only semi-auto).

As a general rule, all freedom-loving Americans should want the same firepower their domestic government possesses. That's the whole point behind the Second Amendment, and it represents the distribution of power in a free society.

But instead of firepower being equal in America today, DHS is using our taxpayer dollars to purchase thousands of full-auto weapons for their own agents. This is apparently being done under ICE (Immigration and Customs Enforcement).

This brings up the question for another entire article, and here's the question: Why does immigration need 7,000 full-auto assault rifles? Is there a friggin' Mexican invasion planned that nobody told me about? Is ICE going to invade Mexico and start a shooting war with the Mexican drug cartels?

Seriously: Why does ICE need 7,000 full-auto assault rifles? And why does DHS need 1.6 billion rounds of ammo?


Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/038844_DHS_a ... z2JNmXPBXO
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Re: Who Needs an AR-15?

Postby Fred762 » Wed Jan 30, 2013 10:26 am

As I have said before...the president, all the big pols, the billionaires, leftist media talking heads and so on should lead by example and disarm their myriad guard teams...allowing the SS guards to carry batons and possibly Mace would be a first rate idea for the anti-gunners. There should be "gun-free zone" signs on all their mansions, yachts, planes and vehicles. After all that was done...then...then..could they begin to preach to the citizenry about gun control.
But...no way will THAT happen..the bigwigs and pols sit behind their machinegun-toting SS guards, most of whom are paid [somehow] out of OPM and whine bks we poor tax-payers are trying to own weapons with which we can try to protect our families. Hypocrites. Hypocrites.
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Re: Who Needs an AR-15?

Postby Fred762 » Sun Mar 24, 2013 7:53 pm

I didn't know where to put this but here goes: Mayor Bloombarg of NYC has just kicked off another anti-gun push with 12 of his many millions of dollars. Gee whiz..another bigtime liberal member of the 'club' telling us sheeple that we must do as HE says...while 80+% of the kids graduating from high school in the city where he is mayor cannot READ, WRITE or do MATH!!!
Well here is Bloomberg's situation...13th richest guy in the country..or maybe the world....who is surrounded at all times by heavily-armed men. Here is his estate in Bermuda, where his GUARDS have special permission, I guess from the gvt of Britain, to have guns...in a island country where guns are outlawed, even for police.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/26/nyreg ... 3&-Steve1&
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