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Question re: SB 3012

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Question re: SB 3012

Postby jarhead » Mon May 17, 2010 9:33 am

I have read the bill and am still confused. How does one determine if an establishment is defined by the state as a restaurant or as a bar? Or are ALL establishments that sell alcohol in TN defined as restaurants?
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Re: Question re: SB 3012

Postby ProguninTN » Mon May 17, 2010 10:01 am

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Re: Question re: SB 3012

Postby jarhead » Mon May 17, 2010 10:26 am

Thanks
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Re: Question re: SB 3012

Postby jhnpeterman » Mon May 17, 2010 12:50 pm

If the current bill is not vetoed will we be able to carry in other places that serve alcohol as long as they aren't properly posted? I'm thinking of places like the Grand Ole Opry (and I realize it probably will be properly posted under the new law), but I am referring to similar places.
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Re: Question re: SB 3012

Postby macville » Mon May 17, 2010 4:13 pm

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Re: Question re: SB 3012

Postby johnharris » Tue May 18, 2010 9:59 am

Keep these points in mind.

1) Tennessee law does not distinguish among a bar, tavern, and a restaurant. All are operating under "restaurant" classification with respect to liquor licensing.

2) There are many, many places with liquor licenses that are not licensed as restaurants. These would include museums, aquariums, entertainment venues (TPAC), hotels, beds & breakfast, etc. Thus, not all places with liquor licenses are "restaurants" nor do they obtain any meaningful (in many instances) portion of their revenue from food sales.

3) The 2009 law only dealt with those places that were arguably restaurants.

4) The proposed 2010 law deletes the existing "alcohol" statute entirely so there is no longer a state prohibition based on whether the place sells alcohol / beer for on premises consumption. These places are now treated like any other public accommodation and will be open (if the law goes into effect) unless the property owner/manager elects to post it in compliance with the new proposed posting standards.
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Re: Question re: SB 3012

Postby TacticaLogic » Tue May 18, 2010 2:59 pm

According to , the vetoed has occurred. LET'S GET THE OVERRIDE GOING ASAP!!!

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Re: Question re: SB 3012

Postby lilredhunter » Tue May 18, 2010 3:15 pm

According to WSMV the rat Vetoed it. We need a real Governor. Not a chicken like the one we have.
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