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Loophole could keep guns out of Nashville restaurants

Postby majorbotts » Thu Jun 04, 2009 4:27 pm

Here's the Nashville loop-hole story: http://www.nashvillepost.com/news/2009/ ... estaurants
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Re: Loophole could keep guns out of Nashville restaurants

Postby wizardpc » Fri Jun 05, 2009 5:44 pm

I'm hearing that Metro Legal has put the axe on this one.
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Re: Loophole could keep guns out of Nashville restaurants

Postby johnharris » Fri Jun 05, 2009 5:45 pm

Please elaborate....
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Re: Loophole could keep guns out of Nashville restaurants

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Re: Loophole could keep guns out of Nashville restaurants

Postby fl0at » Sat Jun 06, 2009 2:01 pm

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Re: Loophole could keep guns out of Nashville restaurants

Postby ngoeser » Sun Jun 07, 2009 5:04 pm

Thought you would be interested in seeing this. I just sent this email to every single Nashville Metro council member. I hope to God this email will make most of them think and will sway their opinion on law abiding citizens with carry permits being able to carry in establishments that serve alcohol. Senator Jackson does not think the council can keep this law from staying in effect but.....anything I can do to help, I am going to do.


Dear Council Member (Member Name)



My name is Nikki Goeser. My husband “Ben” was murdered right in front of me on April 2, 2009 at Jonny’s Sports Bar on Nolensville Road here in the Nashville area. I am a gun permit holder here in the State of Tennessee . I had my training, permit course, intermediate course, I had been in a shooting competition where I came in 3rd place out of about 18 people. I have since gotten my advanced certification. Because of Tennessee State Law right now, I had to leave my loaded gun out in my car the night my husband was gunned down. I understand you are all looking to keep guns out of establishments that serve alcohol. I hope you will listen to my story and reconsider your position on all of this. First, I have to be very careful what I say about the case as the man that did this deserves a fair trial. My husband can never breathe again, can never hold me again, can never hug his children or hold his grandchildren again but the man that did this gets a fair trial. He will get a fair trial. I can tell you that the man that did this to us was stalking me. That part is already out there and the police actually told the media so I can say that. I want you for one moment to think if this happened to you or someone you love. I can tell you that bad guys do not care about Laws. Every restaurant in Tennessee can put up a “No Guns Allowed” sign but you know what? It will stop nothing horrible from happening. If anything, it will be a welcome invitation for people with evil intentions to come in and murder innocent people because they know there will be nobody there that can defend themselves from a gun. Bad guys will always get guns. By forcing good law abiding citizens who have been properly trained and have a right to carry permit from having that weapon on them when they sit down to eat a meal with their family…..you are creating a situation where innocent, good people are “helpless” and at the mercy of people with horrible intentions. That mad gunman could come in and kill 25 of the 50 people in that restaurant. However, if there is a good citizen in there that is properly permitted, that 25 person head count could be minimized to 0, 1, 2 maybe 3 people. The law abiding good citizen could save countless lives. I encourage you to research online the Luby’s Cafeteria Massacre (Suzanna Hupp). Please look it up under a search engine. You will learn much from this woman’s story. I have spoken with Suzanna and she was instrumental in getting gun laws changed in her state of Texas . In Texas you can now carry in establishments that serve alcohol and she says it works. There are no incidences where a permit holder has ever done anything horrible or acted irresponsibly. Permit holders will follow the law, they will not drink while carrying. It’s the bad guys you need to fear, not the good guys. When seconds count, the police are minutes away. The police got to Jonny’s Sports Bar just in enough time to find my husband’s dead body and me beside him in shock with Ben’s blood on my clothes and hands from holding him. This is reality. This happens and I am trying so hard to make people realize that this world we live in now is not some candy coated wonderland. There are evil people out there that wish to ruin it for the rest of us. I pray that nothing happens to you or your loved ones like what happened to mine. Some people will only wake up once it does. I hope you listen to what I have to say and learn from my nightmare that I am forced to deal with everyday. Please listen to me I beg you. I have attached some very important links below and I hope you will all watch every one of them. Please reconsider what you are doing. Please.



http://www.fox17.com/newsroom/top_stori ... 5883.shtml

http://www.wkrn.com/Global/story.asp?s=10483921

http://www.wkrn.com/Global/story.asp?s=10478508

http://www.nranews.com
click on program archives
click on June 4th
click on Nikki Goeser

http://www.newschannel5.com/Global/story.asp?s=10478764

http://www.wsmv.com/politics/19657399/detail.html

http://wapp.capitol.tn.gov/apps/videowr ... ?CommID=63
go to archived videos
Senate Session-38th Legislative Day June 4,
Click video


Sincerely,

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Re: Loophole could keep guns out of Nashville restaurants

Postby ngoeser » Sun Jun 07, 2009 5:07 pm

Thought you would be interested in seeing this. I just sent this email to every single Nashville Mtero councimember. I hope to God this email will make most of them think and will sway their opinion on law abiding citizens with carry permits being able to carry in establishments that serve alcohol. Senator Jackson does not think the council can keep this law from staying in effect but.....anything I can do to help, I am going to do.


Dear Council Member (Member Name)



My name is Nikki Goeser. My husband “Ben” was murdered right in front of me on April 2, 2009 at Jonny’s Sports Bar on Nolensville Road here in the Nashville area. I am a gun permit holder here in the State of Tennessee . I had my training, permit course, intermediate course, I had been in a shooting competition where I came in 3rd place out of about 18 people. I have since gotten my advanced certification. Because of Tennessee State Law right now, I had to leave my loaded gun out in my car the night my husband was gunned down. I understand you are all looking to keep guns out of establishments that serve alcohol. I hope you will listen to my story and reconsider your position on all of this. First, I have to be very careful what I say about the case as the man that did this deserves a fair trial. My husband can never breathe again, can never hold me again, can never hug his children or hold his grandchildren again but the man that did this gets a fair trial. He will get a fair trial. I can tell you that the man that did this to us was stalking me. That part is already out there and the police actually told the media so I can say that. I want you for one moment to think if this happened to you or someone you love. I can tell you that bad guys do not care about Laws. Every restaurant in Tennessee can put up a “No Guns Allowed” sign but you know what? It will stop nothing horrible from happening. If anything, it will be a welcome invitation for people with evil intentions to come in and murder innocent people because they know there will be nobody there that can defend themselves from a gun. Bad guys will always get guns. By forcing good law abiding citizens who have been properly trained and have a right to carry permit from having that weapon on them when they sit down to eat a meal with their family…..you are creating a situation where innocent, good people are “helpless” and at the mercy of people with horrible intentions. That mad gunman could come in and kill 25 of the 50 people in that restaurant. However, if there is a good citizen in there that is properly permitted, that 25 person head count could be minimized to 0, 1, 2 maybe 3 people. The law abiding good citizen could save countless lives. I encourage you to research online the Luby’s Cafeteria Massacre (Suzanna Hupp). Please look it up under a search engine. You will learn much from this woman’s story. I have spoken with Suzanna and she was instrumental in getting gun laws changed in her state of Texas . In Texas you can now carry in establishments that serve alcohol and she says it works. There are no incidences where a permit holder has ever done anything horrible or acted irresponsibly. Permit holders will follow the law, they will not drink while carrying. It’s the bad guys you need to fear, not the good guys. When seconds count, the police are minutes away. The police got to Jonny’s Sports Bar just in enough time to find my husband’s dead body and me beside him in shock with Ben’s blood on my clothes and hands from holding him. This is reality. This happens and I am trying so hard to make people realize that this world we live in now is not some candy coated wonderland. There are evil people out there that wish to ruin it for the rest of us. I pray that nothing happens to you or your loved ones like what happened to mine. Some people will only wake up once it does. I hope you listen to what I have to say and learn from my nightmare that I am forced to deal with everyday. Please listen to me I beg you. I have attached some very important links below and I hope you will all watch every one of them. Please reconsider what you are doing. Please.

http://www.fox17.com/newsroom/top_stori ... 5883.shtml

http://www.wkrn.com/Global/story.asp?s=10483921

http://www.wkrn.com/Global/story.asp?s=10478508

www.nranews.com
click on program archives
click on June 4th
click on Nikki Goeser

http://www.newschannel5.com/Global/story.asp?s=10478764

http://www.wsmv.com/politics/19657399/detail.html

http://wapp.capitol.tn.gov/apps/videowr ... ?CommID=63
go to archived videos
Senate Session-38th Legislative Day June 4,
Click video



Sincerely,

Nikki Goeser
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Re: Loophole could keep guns out of Nashville restaurants

Postby David Lewis » Mon Jun 08, 2009 2:30 pm

Great job, Nikki!

Hope to see you at the Nashville meeting next week.

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