HB3125

[C. Richard Archie]

Sent e-mails to each committee member last week, so far Rep. Fincher is the only one I have heard back from. I know they are busy, as long as they vote correctly, I do not care if they respond via e-mail.

[tnxdshooter]

[tnxdshooter]

Up at #9

http://wapp.capitol.tn.gov/apps/videowr ... mID=870000

[tnxdshooter]

Just passed 8-4. However, if I got the verbiage correct the part where they are required to post according to tca blah blah blah instead of just using the symbol was struck down.

[C. Richard Archie]

I believe Coleman's amendment was voted down, the bill goes to Ways and Means as is, with the sign language in tact. Out in TX, so having a little connectivity problem, but I think that is how it went.

[tnxdshooter]

[C. Richard Archie]

I believe it failed as well.

[tnxdshooter]

Okay good.

[TNReb]

Both the amendments by Coleman on using the international symbol and Sontany to relieve property owners from liability were moved to the table. That is basically the polite way of voting it down. The bill was voted to go to the next committee without those amendments. Now on to FW&M.

[SomeGuy]

I know what anti effect Coleman was shooting for, but Sontany's was more nebulous. Perhaps just trying to reode support?

[tnxdshooter]

I dont know tn reb I think the hospitality people wanted that amendment added. Sucks to be them they got vetoed. I think they will sue again but this time hopefully there are no loop holes. So how long until we get to actually start carrying at these places?

[David Lewis]

[macville]

[TNReb]

As it currently stands, I believe the bill says it will take effect on July 1, 2010. Also, I'm not sure why Kent Coleman offered that amendment. I suppose someone had asked him to do it, or it could be they were hoping to add something to the bill that could be challenged later. It probably wouldn't hold up since it confers special rights on someone, and it is notoriously hard to limit liability for anyone.

[tnxdshooter]

Mr coleman and mrs sontany seemed to have a deep disdain for gun owners. How did they get elected?

[johnharris]

Talked with several House members last night.

Although we are past the House judiciary at this point, there are plenty of chances for negative amendments and delays. Delays are perhaps the most dangerous since they can reduce or eliminate the opportunity for a veto override. Now that we are moving it is critical that we get on every phone, every fax, every forum and every email available to turn up the call volume. We need to increase the vote percentages and get it past the House and Senate now as fast as possible. If we are in the middle of April before this passes, it can easily die with a late veto because they will recess and likely will not come back since its an election year.

[Tim Nunan]

[tnxdshooter]

So what is sontany's deal?

[johnharris]

[C. Richard Archie]

One would think a person who had achieved the position of Legislator would have at least a rudimentary understanding of the Constitutions, both Federal and State.

Upon reflection, it can only be surmised that these individuals know the legalities, but chose to maneuver around the protections offered by these documents for self serving reasons. What those reasons are is the basis of the questions we should be asking.

The foundation of the Constitutions is ancient, a study of the process that lead to the codification of those principals should be required in our education institutions. A desire by the framers, upon the realization of Liberty as a result of our Revolution, to put in writing the principals of freedom least they become lost in the political reach for power is what led to the listing of these rules. These words are chains put in place by those men who had a vested interest in the future of our Nation, who had seen what absolute Power could, and did force on the population. A listing of binding restraint in the Constitution, and then a listing of Rights that should never be constrained.

Each of our public servants affirm their acceptance of those principals, and promises to protect the documents (and the safeguards afforded our personal Liberty) from harm and usurpation upon taking their oath of office. The Pledge of Allegiance reminds them all through their life that we have a Republic that stands for Liberty for all. There is no possibility that they are ignorant of the purposes of the Constitutions, therefore, there must be willful intent to fail to uphold them.