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AG: Gun ban remains for school athletic events

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AG: Gun ban remains for school athletic events

Postby C. Richard Archie » Mon Jul 27, 2009 1:42 pm

AG: Gun ban remains for school athletic events

The Associated Press
• July 27, 2009

NASHVILLE — Tennessee Attorney General Bob Cooper says people with handgun permits can’t carry their weapons into parks or sports fields when they are being used by schools.

In an opinion released Monday, Cooper says the state’s new law to allow permit holders to bring their guns in city and county parks does not prohibit schools from using those facilities. But once they do, guns would be banned there.

Cooper cites state law that bans guns in any area ‘‘owned, used or operated by a school.’’ He writes that non-student permit holders can store their guns in their cars while school-sponsored events are going on.

The opinion was requested by House Republican Caucus Chairman Glen Casada of Franklin.

Several communities are considering opting out of the guns in parks law.
"It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds." Samuel Adams

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Re: AG: Gun ban remains for school athletic events

Postby S&W29 » Sat Aug 01, 2009 7:53 am

Here is a quick question. Say a school is on a field trip and on their way back they stop at a restaurant to ear, say McDonalds, does this mean I could not carry into the McDonalds?
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Re: AG: Gun ban remains for school athletic events

Postby falcon1 » Sat Aug 01, 2009 10:15 am

Another question: some of these parks cover a large geographical area. What happens when I enter the park from one side, and the school group has entered from the other. How do I know that they are there? What if I arrive first, then they arrive later? Am I now in violation of the law? Talk about unconstitutionally vague....
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Re: AG: Gun ban remains for school athletic events

Postby macville » Sun Aug 02, 2009 10:11 pm

You know the best way to make it less unconstitutionally vague? Just totally eliminate the no carry at school law, along with the property and use parts of the law. Pretty simple!

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Re: AG: Gun ban remains for school athletic events

Postby rheppert » Wed Sep 02, 2009 10:25 am

What happens when I am in a State Park and a school field trip comes along, or does this only apply to County and City parks?
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Re: AG: Gun ban remains for school athletic events

Postby ProguninTN » Wed Sep 02, 2009 1:49 pm

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Re: AG: Gun ban remains for school athletic events

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Re: AG: Gun ban remains for school athletic events

Postby Mousegun » Thu Sep 03, 2009 6:41 am

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Re: AG: Gun ban remains for school athletic events

Postby 1gewehr » Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:38 am

The problem is that we have been letting the other side run the dialogue.
I believe that anyone here would do everything in their power to prevent harm to a child. But the anti-gun folks are telling us that defending children is 'irresponsible'.
When, God forbid, there is another school shooting, all we need to do is say "There are 238,000* people in Tennessee that could have tried to defend your child. But they were legally forbidden to even try."

*http://www.state.tn.us/safety/stats/DL_Handgun/Handgun/HandgunCarryPermitsJan2008-Jul2009.pdf
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Re: AG: Gun ban remains for school athletic events

Postby price g » Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:45 am

I was concerned about this Tuesday at a sporting event my son participated in on church property after school hours.
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Re: AG: Gun ban remains for school athletic events

Postby macville » Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:07 pm

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Re: AG: Gun ban remains for school athletic events

Postby Grunt67 » Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:17 pm

Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for dinner.
Liberty is a well-armed lamb, contesting the vote.
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Re: AG: Gun ban remains for school athletic events

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Re: AG: Gun ban remains for school athletic events

Postby Grunt67 » Fri Sep 04, 2009 11:53 am

Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for dinner.
Liberty is a well-armed lamb, contesting the vote.
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Re: AG: Gun ban remains for school athletic events

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Re: AG: Gun ban remains for school athletic events

Postby SomeGuy » Fri Sep 04, 2009 7:03 pm

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Re: AG: Gun ban remains for school athletic events

Postby Grunt67 » Fri Sep 04, 2009 11:17 pm

I understand what both are saying, I just don't buy it. Certainly not the intent of the law. I can understand "if" the school
had reserved McDs' for whatever purpose, & it was posted, advertised, or some means of notification, then there
would be a problem. I just can't see a school driving up at random & changing the rules.

Ok. John, give us a ruling.........Hey, if I'm wrong, so be it. Won't be the first or last time, nor will it
hurt my feelings.
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Re: AG: Gun ban remains for school athletic events

Postby C. Richard Archie » Sat Sep 05, 2009 6:02 am

If we are to take the stance that "used or operated" is to be taken literally for any situation, then our homes are going to be off limits as well as any street. Children do their homework at home, and that is a "use" by the school system. Every road in the State of TN is used by the school busses, so does that preclude our right to be armed on them as well?
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Re: AG: Gun ban remains for school athletic events

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Re: AG: Gun ban remains for school athletic events

Postby price g » Sat Sep 05, 2009 3:31 pm

So, the way I read it,the school board super has more influence than the AG? Rolling bans?
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