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Alexander and Corker qualify for this forum...again

Postby Tim Nunan » Sun May 29, 2011 1:33 pm

http://gunowners.org/a05272011.htm

Senate Rejects Efforts to Protect Gun Records from ATF
Friday, 27 May 2011 17:23
The Senate, by an overwhelming 85-10 vote, tabled an amendment by Senator Rand Paul which would have protected 4473’s and other gun records from blanket searches by the ATF under the PATRIOT Act.

A mere 24 hours earlier, Democratic Leader Harry Reid went through parliamentary convolutions in order to prevent a vote on the Paul 4473 amendment, fearing that a vote on his language would have devastating implications for his Democrats running for reelection.

But Reid had some important allies in the Republican leadership. Minority Leader Mitch McConnell and his second-in-command, retiring Senator Jon Kyl (R-AZ), used their “Republican whip” apparatus to mischaracterize the Paul amendment and try to force Republicans to vote against it by spreading misinformation and lies.

For instance, they claimed that had the FBI been investigating the 2009 Fort Hood shooter, and the Paul amendment had been in effect, authorities would not have had the necessary tools under the Patriot Act to conduct an investigation.

But the terrorism legislation was fully in force at the time of the Fort Hood shooting, and did nothing to prevent it! The answer to every government inadequacy is not simply to grant it more power.

Republican leaders also claimed that there was no evidence that the PATRIOT Act has been abused on a “widespread” basis, either in general or with respect to the Second Amendment.

But given that all investigations are SECRET and it is a crime to disclose them, it is hypocritical to argue that we don’t know all the abuses.

Here’s what we do know: First, we know of thousands of illegal phone records which were procured by the FBI.

Second, the Obama administration is pushing to illegally seize 4473-type information through its illegal regulations on multiple semi-auto sales in the Southwest –- a demand which is being made under the rubric of “national security.” This effort to register gun sales along the border just underscores how easily the ATF could use the excuse of “terrorism” to register gun sales across the entire country.

Opponents of the Paul amendment claimed that gun owners are protected under the PATRIOT Act, because a request for gun records must be relevant to a terrorism investigation and must first be approved by the Director of the FBI or a select few high-ranking officials.

But this argument does not address the fact that the standard of “relevance” is a low standard ripe for abuse, and it is not much of an assurance at all when you have an administration (like Obama’s) that is hostile to the Second Amendment.

Reid had one additional ally: the National Rifle Association. In the end, the NRA helped both Democrat and Republican leaders by not taking an "official position" on the bill.
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Re: Alexander and Corker qualify for this forum...again

Postby johnharris » Mon May 30, 2011 9:13 am

Neither fully appreciates the Constitution.
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Re: Alexander and Corker qualify for this forum...again

Postby C. Richard Archie » Mon May 30, 2011 2:00 pm

I think Alexander qualifies as the most anti-firearms Legislator in the Senate. He was the only Republican to vote against allowing carry in National Parks, he has voted for cloture on every anti-gun appointee of the Obama Administration, notably Harold Koe.

His sponsoring of the Presidential Appointment Efficiency and Streamlining Act of 2011 (S.679 which he helped write with Sen. Chuck Schumer). In effect, they want to give the Obama the sole power to appoint his pet minions to positions of his choosing within our government, without Senate oversight. Senate approval of such positions is required (mandated) by the U.S. Constitution in Article II, Section 2 under the “Appointments Clause”.

Alexander is no champion of the Constitution, especially with regard to issues which involve the 2nd Amendment or other laws dealing with our Natural Right to self protection and firearms ownership.
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Re: Alexander and Corker qualify for this forum...again

Postby ProguninTN » Fri Jun 03, 2011 5:22 pm

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Re: Alexander and Corker qualify for this forum...again

Postby C. Richard Archie » Sun Jun 05, 2011 5:12 pm

Schumer, Feinstein, and Lautenberg are declared Liberal anti-gun proponents, while Alexander hides his very effective work against our issues under the patina of Conservatism. Crossing the isle to vote with his Liberal cohorts against us instead of holding firm in our interest makes him, in my opinion, the worst Legislator with regards to Firearms Rights.
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Re: Alexander and Corker qualify for this forum...again

Postby ProguninTN » Mon Jun 06, 2011 6:45 pm

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